Goodenough Gismo

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    This is the classic children's book, Goodenough Gismo, by Richmond I. Kelsey, published in 1948. Nearly unavailable in libraries and the collector's market, it is posted here with love as an "orphan work" so that it may be seen and appreciated -- and perhaps even republished, as it deserves to be. After you read this book, it won't surprise you to learn that Richmond Irwin Kelsey (1905-1987) was an accomplished artist, or that as Dick Kelsey, he was one of the great Disney art directors, breaking your heart with "Pinocchio," "Dumbo," and "Bambi."

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Ruth Anne

I didn't like Senator Obama referring to Senator McCain as "John" when McCain kept calling him "Senator Obama." It just seemed inappropriately casual.


I'm not keen on that. Of course, I support McCain (no secret there), and I dislike Sen. Obama. But it doesn't help promote more civil dialogue and "straight talk" to pounce like that and use every comment by the opponent to promote oneself. It only will encourage Sen. Obama (and other candidates in the future) to be even MORE careful with every word they utter, lest they find their way into an ad like that.

Plus, it's a bit deceptive, judging by your description of the debate, Annie (I haven't watched it myself yet). From what you described, it sounded like some of those "Sen. McCain is right" lines were uttered simply because McCain got to go first and denounce, say, a nuclear-armed Iran. Had Obama gone first, then McCain might have been going "I agree with Sen Obama..."

Oh, and on a technicality, I don't see how Sen. McCain could possibly have personally approved that ad in that time frame. Methinks that he's delegated permission to attach his pre-recorded "I approved this message" line to ads.

But what do I know. The ad could turn out to be effective, as it sort of plays into the "I know I'm not ready to be President" meme Obama sometimes seems to be promoting, like when he accidentally referred to "President Biden."


Any concerns about Iran?

Obama claims Iran didn't become a threat till the Iraq war began. He seems to have forgotten the 1979 Iranian hostage crisis, and the fact that Iran has been a threat even before then.

How old was Obama during the Iranian Hostage situation. Were those those his youthful rabble-rousing Saul Alinsky days ?

Pull out of Iraq and poof.....Iran is instantly neutralized.




Reminds me of a lyric from "A Boy Named Sue":

"Well, I grew up quick and I grew up mean,
My fist got hard and my wits got keen"

Peter Hoh

Fwiw, Obama was 18-20 when the Iran Hostage crisis happened.

Sure, Iran has been a threat for a long time. It became a stronger threat after we invaded Iraq and bungled the first few years of occupation.

Peter Hoh

The YouTube I want to see:

"I'm John McCain, and I approve this message."

Footage of Obama at the debate.

Obama: "Well, I think Senator McCain is absolutely right."

Scary voiceover guy: "Barack Obama: wrong again."

RW Rogers

Why is it all that mean? At least it wasn't taken out of context and he really did say that, unlike the ads Obama has been running in Florida saying McCain wanted to take away half of current retirees Social Security or Obama's infamous Spanish language ad that is crammed full of lies and distortions.

Nothing that happened tonight changes my opinion that Obama is the likely next POTUS. Still, when the interests of the country demanded full attention, McCain was there but Obama wanted to continue with petty politics. McCain did himself no favors with his theatrics this week, but he did the nation a great service. Go back and read stories from the beginning of the week and you'll see. They thought they had a delightful "bipartisan agreement" and everything was all set for a vote. They forgot that George Bush has next to zero influence these days and most Republicans running for reelection want to be nowhere near him. Nobody doing the secret negotiating was seriously talking to the House Republicans though, and imagine what would have happened had this come to a vote yesterday or today and 190 Republicans and a dozen or two Democrats in marginal districts voted "No." Nobody in a hotly contested race wants to be tarred as a supporter of the Bush Bailout for Big Wall Street, as their opponents will do despite Michael Reynolds's claims that the Democrats don't smear, lie, and cheat at election time. It wasn't until that meeting in the cabinet room, a result of McCain's decision to return, that they finally recognized they had a problem. Naturally, Dodd, Frank & Reid chose to shoot the messenger. Nancy Pelosi may have tried but then she was the one who lamented they needed him earlier so that was unbelievable from the get-go. If a deal does get worked out with genuine bipartisan support it will be no thanks to them and much thanks to McCain, whether or not that is what he intended.

As an aside, am I the only one who noticed that no one this week ever said "We need Barack Obama's support on this." Those of you who continue to believe in the fairy tale of his bipartisan political nature might want to think about that. He offered nothing but empty rhetoric and was completely uninterested in working to forge an acceptable bipartisan bill. He was content to go along and get along with whatever the "powers that be" decided.

RW Rogers

I didn't like Senator Obama referring to Senator McCain as "John" when McCain kept calling him "Senator Obama." It just seemed inappropriately casual.

Obama did that throughout the Democratic debates when referring to Hillary Clinton. It is an attempt to reduce the stature of the opponent by refusing to address him or her by their job title. The other psychological impact hoped for is for listeners to believe that the person doing it is demonstrating that he is part of the "in crowd" in Washington, and so close to his opponent that is hard not to address him as if they were sitting in a living room. Obama's done something similar to Palin, BTW, although more often than not, he was calling her Mayor Palin the week after her nomination.


it doesn't help promote more civil dialogue and "straight talk"

Particularly because that was Obama's attempt to be fair and civil. It's like reaching out to shake hands and getting a buzzer.

Disrespect: commentators have noticed that Obama called McCain "John," which seemed overfamiliar. Others have noted that McCain never looked at his opponent.


Maxine, I didn't hear him say that Iran only became a threat as a result of the Iraq war. He said that Iran had been strengthened by the Iraq war, which is true. Iraq is a Shia-majority country and will be an ally of Iran and probably dominated by Iran. It's the reason why Saddam was our sonofabitch for so many years before he became our target of opportunity.


Actually, what Obama did say, now that I recall, is that Iran wasn't a nuclear threat before the Iraq war. That may be temporally true, but it's doubtful that it's cause and effect.


Peter Hoh: you are so on a roll lately.

You too, RW. I think you should do that inspired bracelet thing. Make a killing. It's the American dream!

RW Rogers

Particularly because that was Obama's attempt to be fair and civil.

It is a bit late in the day for that, I think. False bipartisanship and phony civility accomplish nothing. After all, this is a man who took the portion of a sentence uttered by his opponent and ran ads using it, despite the fact that the complete sentence meant something else entirely. Obama did that not once but twice earlier this year, long before the campaign got officially "nasty" (definition: McCain runs an ad critical of Obama). In fact, Obama incorporated both phrases into his stump speech and used them for a month after there was no conceivable way for him to not know he was outright lying about his opponent.


RWR, one was about being in Iraq for 100 years, right? What was the other one?

They've both done this. It's ridiculous for either side to act shocked, shocked or claim the high ground.

Peter Hoh

FWIW, Obama refers to McCain as "Senator McCain" in two of the three snippets used in this ad.

As I mentioned over at Althouse, I think this ad was a mistake. It has the potential of overshadowing McCain's performance in the debate.

It reinforces the idea that McCain has a nasty streak.

RW Rogers

Amba, the other was a quote about the economy from about the same time as the other. Agreed, both campaigns have distorted the record of their opponent. At the same time, I haven't heard of an ad where McCain directly quotes a specific comment by Obama completely out of context and then pretend he meant something other than what he actually meant. The closest thing to that was the kindergarten sex issue, but even that is not nearly as below the belt as Obama would like us to believe. Yet one more example of his failure to do his due diligence before putting his name on the line. The live birth ad is one the press studiously avoids because the whole subject makes almost everyone uncomfortable. As it is, there is no question he did what he did and said what he said.

Peter Hoh

RW, the most egregious example of the McCain campaign using an snippet of an Obama quote out of context is documented here.

RW Rogers

Thanks, Peter. Missed that one. If you say so, Half of it is unfair. Although it is hard to conceive of a country with 72 million people as being "tiny" under any circumstances, even when compared to the old USSR with 270 million, which is what says he was doing. I don't know about you, but tiny means something like Luxembourg, Guyana, Singapore or Botswana to me. If Iran is tiny, what is Iraq with 21 million? What is France or Great Britain, for that matter?

The "serious threat" misrepresentation is a good example, I agree. As it is, they can recycle this ad with Obama's statements about Iran tonight, though. The one where he basically said Iran wasn't engaged in developing nuclear weapons before we invaded Iraq. As Factcheck notes, they stopped work for a time after the invasion. Anyway, Obama's interpretation of history, geography and current foreign affairs is certainly unique. (We won't even touch his irresponsible demagoguery over Pakistan.)

And Peter, note the factcheck comment about this ad probably never having been played anywhere on TV: John McCain's ad, "Tiny," was sent to reporters on the third day of the Democratic convention. The McCain campaign describes it as a "television ad" that "will air in key states." We'll add this caveat: Some recent ads – at least one from each campaign – have received far more play on YouTube and television news shows than they have as paid advertisements.

Obama an those ads last summer. Obama made those speeches last summer. There is a difference.

Tom Strong

Randy wrote (some time ago):

McCain did himself no favors with his theatrics this week, but he did the nation a great service.

How? By delaying the bankruptcy bill? Or do you think he killed the bill, and that's the best outcome? I'm genuinely curious.


"You too, RW. I think you should do that inspired bracelet thing. Make a killing. It's the American dream!"

I have a very hard time finding anything lol about the bracelet deal. I find it sincere(i admit to being surprised that B. Obama had a bracelet), i find it very sad that the memory of a fallen man is on the wrist of another breathing one who will soon be President and i find it not in anyone's best interest to make light of sacrifices of ~blood& treasure~ by belittling others' plight.

Maybe it's just me, but Althouse's(Chris)comment seems to have started it- and i thought it quite callous.


Just to remind you, what RW said that was funny was that people might start wearing bracelets for foreclosed homeowners. That doesn't seem to me to take away from a soldier's sacrifice. As for a politician's sincerity in wearing one, in this case I would not question McCain's.


It seems to diminish the original meaning- that's all. I'm just hyper-sensitive, here.

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